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Letters to AO

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Letters from 15 to 21 May 2006

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First a young sceptic, then a priest...

I think the assumption in last week's letter that those who are not attending church are captive to the greed and materialism of culture is faulty and not well researched. Most of the people I know who are not involved in church - are involved in social justice, environmental work, and other activities to help the world to become a more safe, just, healthy place. Church, to them, is a bunch of wrangling, silly, power hungry, people. The loss of this generation is because we do not offer them a place to find meaning and a place to serve. Thanks for the weekly challenge.

PS. I read the article and I felt the same way at their ages: religion is for "those" sorts of people, not for me. Now I am a priest.

Ann Fontaine
Lander, Wyoming, USA
akhfontaine@gmail.com
15 May 2006

Passing on the church — news from the trenches

Last week's essay (regarding passing on the Anglican tradition) struck home. My wife and I are in our forties, with two young children. We are members of a warm and active parish, but most of the members are over 60 (part of this is due to the fact that we live in a retirement mecca, but that is not the whole story). There are few children in the parish and fewer still who show up regularly and Christian Education is almost an afterthought.

I am an Episcopalian/Anglican because the traditions of the BCP, and the Anglican musical tradition speak to me. "Creative" liturgies, happy-clappy music, and a theology of affirmation and happy thoughts seem to be what some think will bring them in. I doubt it. And, if we go that route, we lose an important component of what makes us Anglican in the first place. Better to join the Baptists up the road, or the RC's, the Methodists, or the Lutherans.

Your photo says it all. There is little so dated as what was "contemporary" a couple of decades ago.

Ted Gale
Calvary Episcopal (Indian Rocks Beach)
Pinellas County, Florida, USA
15 May 2006

In response to your front page article I was moved by the Holy Spirit to write what we have experienced at a small rural church, of a very large diocese. (Roughly divide South Australia in half and we cover the entire west).

Our congregation is aging, for the young people have had to leave this area for further education and employment. The young families whom we have contact found it increasingly more difficult to bring their children along, partly because the children didn’t find the traditional Sunday School inspiring. So, in response we brought the children into the body of the nave, dedicating an area for reading, drawing, and activities where the children could lie or sit as they chose.

This did not hold interest for long. The young people found other activities to do on Saturday nights or Sunday mornings and still didn’t come. What is interesting though is that our own daughters disliked the new children’s area and preferred to sit with us in the pews. Our youngest has in fact asked for the old style "time out" session instead.

What do we do? Recently, our Synod endorsed a move to further encourage creativity in presenting the Gospel, just as your article has alluded. On the one hand, an aging congregation has only so much energy to expend. But on the other hand, we have made some investment in our young ones who have left the town. In their own way, they are witnessing Christ to their peers, and they are respected for it. They plant the seed of faith on soil that we perhaps see as unfertile. This can only be but an inspiration for us.

Part of our creativity I sense is to come through developing a purposeful tapping of our collective spiritualism, where prayer is offered over extended periods, a kind of prayer tank. This is God's a gift; a kind of intelligence that has been blessed upon us.
The Y generation has suffered and don’t deserve to be abandoned. Small hotspots of success continue to glow, but there recipe is rarely transferable. That’s where our collective spirituality needs to work. We can’t rush into populist fads without the detail, nor can we tarry in reverential meditation.

We are at a cross-road, and frustrated knowing full well our pilgrimage may follow the well worn path that the London Times article seems to gloat over. It is our prayerful hope that it doesn’t; but ministry to the next generation may well be at the grass roots, and not in heritage–listed buildings.

The Reverend David Thompson
St. James Anglican Church Ministry District, Southern Flinders
Jamestown, South Australia
17 May 2006

my parish is quite focused on developing youth and young adult programs. I am incredibly lucky as a young adult (I'm 27) to have ventured upon a brilliant minister and a parish focused on education, progress, and growth. My parish is 'being faithful to the future' of the church, recognizing that while this might at times create conflict, it's vital to the sustainable development of young disciples and thereby the Anglican church.

My church has Inquiry courses for new adult members as well as for youth members. Both courses enable members to learn about the basics of Christianity, the history of the church, some principles of theology, the reasons for what is done in liturgy, the physical items used in a service, the church calendar, etc. Although a generous amount of material is covered, the courses and the medium for communicating the material meet the audience where they live. Much like Christ in his educational capacity, our minister and our curate are both successful in stepping into the lives of their students to educate on a level that their students can understand and can become passionate about. Education is definitely one key in attracting and retaining all new entrants to the church.

However, attracting youth and young adults to the church goes far beyond educational programs. The one thing terribly lacking in my generation, and I suspect in younger generations as well, is community. We've grown up focused on individual achievement, independence, realism, cynicism and rapidly shifting trends. We are also a generation of media, instant communication with virtually anyone in the world and an overload of stimuli. However, even with this constant stimulation, I believe a lot of my and younger generations are lonely and are searching for an authentic, accepting community in which to feel safe in belief and exploration.

Our parish, through the passionate, insightful leadership of our minister, understands a lot of these trends and is moving toward strategies to address the gap between what has been the dying traditional Anglican parish model and the necessary, sustainable Anglican Mission parish model. We brought in a curate specifically to develop youth programs. Slowly but surely, we are starting to see growth and development and most importantly, community interest in attending services and getting involved in these youth programs. In addition, our minister has handed control and responsibility for developing a 20's-30's ministry to a couple of us who are passionate about its development and experienced in developing high school, university and young adult programs for politics. Through our inclusion, we are drawn deeper into a commitment to facilitate the growth of our youth programs.

We've started to develop ideas for small groups, mentorship programs, leading, learning and teaching programs, coffee house socials, moms and tots yoga, walking, running, biking and book clubs, singles nights, debate evenings with scholars, musicians, artists and ministers, Christian art and music events. We're redesigning our church's website so that we will have a functional, up-to-date calendar, blogs, message boards, opportunities to download our minister's sermons, direction to educational and pastoral resources, up to date pictures and movies. And for goodness sake, we are a generation that finds a good deal of our contacts and information via the internet. For those churches that don't yet understand this or think it unimportant, please, understand the opportunity you miss out on to reach the youth of your community and beyond.

It will take far more than just education or a curriculum to ensure the future of the Anglican church. The sustainability of the church will require a commitment from clergy to creating a community where young people can experience Christ, can feel safe, comfortable and excited in learning, expressing and growing in their Christianity. But that commitment from clergy must be met by elders willing to stretch their comfort zone a bit to grow out of staid traditions, middle agers willing to serve as mentors and guides for young adults, young adults willing to be mentors and guides for teenagers while learning about the traditions and ceremony of the elders and finally, teenagers willing to be mentors and guides to the little ones.

Christianity grew because Christ reached out to people and met them in their place of need and understanding. These people gathered into communities that provided an authentic experience of love, support, worship, and growth. I think in some cases, members within the Anglican church have become so set in their traditions and liturgical procedure, that they forget Who it is these traditions are about.

Katie Silcox
Trinity Church
Cambridge, Ontario, CANADA
ksilcox@sfu.ca
19 May 2006

You asked about what life is like "in the trenches." I am a Director of Children's Ministries and have been in Christian Education for almost ten years.

The problem does not lie in making the Church relevant to our children. The challenge is to bring their parents to a mature understanding of the faith. The parents I know are loving and want the best for their children, but they lack confidence that they can model the faith and train their children in it. The Church's emphasis and ministry should focus here first, on providing community and nurture (spiritual, moral, and intellectual) for parents whose own faith background was sketchy or nonexistent. Christian parents transmit the faith to their children daily, in ways the institutional Church cannot.

Parents also tend to see church as one activity among many, all of which are necessary for a well-rounded child to experience. So if the family is over-scheduled, church often gets crowded out. It will be there when parents have time for it. And if their children are not "entertained" by church, clearly that means that church is dull and irrelevant, and the solution is to spice it up a bit. But I suspect that children imitate the attitudes that their parents model. They see their parents making time for church as a sometimes tiresome duty, not as a life-giving community of love and service to others. My own experience with teaching children in a church setting is that, if the teacher finds the faith relevant, the children will, too, but if the teacher sees her job as providing "Christian activities" for children, they will know the difference and resent it. So the activity can be a Godly Play story or a morning spent cleaning the church; children will recognize the genuine and respond to it.

Church is not always fun. And, yes, the people you encounter there are sometimes annoying, old-fashioned, or unsympathetic. But the meaning of our baptism is that, in Christ, we are one. This is our primary identity — we are Christians. Only the Church offers us the chance to grow to be like Christ, because only the Church offers us other Christians as brothers and sisters to teach us what life in Christ is about.

Emily Guerry
Grace Episcopal Church
Charleston, South Carolina, USA
ehgreads@bellsouth.net
15 May 2006

I write in response to your very good points raised in the current AO. I surely do not have the answer to all the challenges raised about generation Y; however, I do offer what our parish does with young children as a wonderful program, responsible for the continual addition of parishioners in the form of young families.

As my vestry points out, our numbers don't grow (at least not substantially), but in a highly transient but high income neighborhood of a major city, we have high turnover every year yet keep attracting young families. We are a Catechesis of the Good Shepherd parish; indeed we hold training sessions in that curriculum as well since some of our catechists are trained to train. We also have a fabulous high-school group.

These are at least two things we do remarkably well, and it is a cause for rejoicing. Be in touch if you want more information. Our website, though a beginning is, alas, too out of date. How many parishes could get in that line?

Thank you for your continued thoughtful and hopeful website.

The Reverence Linda Packard
Church of Our Saviour [www.coschurch.org]
Chicago, Illinois, USA
15 May 2006

In our parish, volunteers lead the Sunday school. The program is overseen by a Discipleship Steward that reports to the Rector, Associate Rector, and Vestry. Training is available to new teachers. We use a curricula that encourages using different methods of teaching and response so all learning and teaching styles get accommodated (eventually). Youth move into the Journey to Adulthood curricula where they can learn to express themselves with faith no matter what the circumstance. Children, youth, middlers, elderly, families, everyone is encouraged to live their faith in ministry, in service within the parish and to the larger community in some way.

On a larger note some of us have participated in a Diocesan conference that encouraged family and inter-generational learning. The conference is available worldwide by rhe Youth and Family Institute located in Minnesota. They are Lutheran-based — but don't let that hold you up, they are ecumenical and offer what is needed to help pass along the faith to the next generation. If you want the younger folks to claim their faith, tap in to what rhe Youth and Family Institute have to offer.

On a local note (and yes, we travel to other diocese) I belong to Sacred Joy, we facilitate workshops and training for those facilitating (teaching) all ages. We also offer parish retreats which encourage faith conversations within the home and within the generations. Interestingly enough, our facilitators training is entitled: Faith Is Caught More Than It Is Taught, A Teacher's Guide to Sharing the Faith. Our parish retreats are intended to make faith alive within the home and not just what is done on Sundays.

Can the church survive the next generation? Yes, if we live our faith in this generation and not just give it Sunday service.

Krisan Lamberti
St. Stephen's Episcopal Parish, Coconut Grove
Miami, Florida, USA
19 May 2006

More on the Madison, Wisconsin presentment

As the facts of the Indictment and Presentment (AO News Centre, 4 May) by the Bishop of Milwaukee become known to those of us at St. Luke's Cathedral in Portland — the Reverend Martha Ann Englert's former posting — we are more and more dumbfounded by it all. It seems surreal to just about everyone here. That a warm, loving, caring human being such as Martha can be accused in such a haphazard manner, is astounding. No quotes, no names, nothing firm. A panel which will be stacked by the Bishop to make the decision? Are we involved with a liberal church confronting a conservative diocese? Are the parishioners being told that the Rector they overwhelmingly support is being held up as something she isn't?

This writer has seen Rev. Ms. Englert interface beautifully with children (every parent I know was very sad to see her leave). He has seen her walking in the city park with a cancer victim who wanted to commit suicide (Martha saved a life). He has heard absolutely superlative sermons from her (many times over, with peals of laughter rewarding her sharp wit interwoven with strong church messages), watched her give a pep talk at church dinners (always a welcome part of the evening, and conduct a wedding that had the 300 invited guests entranced (three weeks after 9/11). This writer and his wife were changed by Martha from a pair of churchgoers into strong church supporters.

So what is going on here? As another writer questions, there must be something more than meets the eye. It is, and will be, a shame that the career of a wonderful priest will be damaged no matter what the outcome; and, that the stability of the church in Madison and the Church in general will be upset by some as yet unsubstantiated and unnamed persons. How many are there, by the way? Was their credibility or stability investigated before making such accusations? Or is this situation off and running be some off hand comments?

Is the Bishop ready for embarrassment of the accusers and their families? Is the Bishop prepared for a potential series of lawsuits for libel and slander?

Some of us, at least us back here in Maine, thought the Inquisition and the Star Chamber and the Gestapo were things of the past. Thanks for shocking us back into reality.

Dennis Michael Coughlin
Episcopal Cathedral of St. Luke
Cumberland Foreside, Maine, USA
gizmo61@maine.rr.com
21 May 2006

Who's in, who's out, who's wanted, who's not

I moved from your editorial bemoaning the lack of interest so many young people have in the Church, often because they have no first-hand experience of it, to an article about the four "wise" men the Archbishop of Canterbury is appointing to help him with the "homosexual" crisis facing the Anglican Communion. It appears that there is a disconnect here, between gay people who want to be part of the Church and are unwanted and young people who do not want to be part of the Church and are wanted!

The lesson some of us read from Acts this past Sunday dealt with the baptism of a eunuch, a person outside social norms in ancient Jewish society and also in present-day Catholic society — at least as a priest. And yet Philip, following the angel of God guiding him, does baptise him; and the eunuch goes on his way rejoicing. He rejoices because a representative of God has acknowledged him as a child of God despite the anomaly that causes him to be outside "normal" society. And he knows that he is truly connected to a loving God. Today, all of us can be representatives of that same loving God who rejects no one, unlike many institutions who invoke the name of Jesus.

Perhaps if the churches practiced love as God calls us to do, their pews would be full instead of half-empty.

Stephen Bartlett-Re
ACCNE (Independent Catholic)
San Francisco, California, USA
15 May 2006

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