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Letters from 24 to 30 November 2008

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The consequences of shoooshing

'Sir Ellison Pogo Announces Plans to Retire'.

What a great loss his retirement, and what a great contribution he made.

My encounter with Sir Ellison was during a service at Brisbane Cathedral, where my family had had a not entirely enthusiastic welcome (see below). We found ourselves sitting in front of a little brown Melanesian man in a purple clerical shirt. I turned around and asked him if he was from Fiji; he said, no, he was from the Solomon Islands. “Ah!” I exclaimed. “You are Sir Ellison Pogo!” He indeed was. He was on his way back to Honiara from Canada: “Did you meet Michael Peers?” (Yes.) “Duncan Wallace?” (Yes.) “David Crawley?” (Yes.) And he and I proceeded to whisper and laugh like a couple of naughty schoolboys throughout the duration of the service. And no one was game to shush us.

During a couple of years in Sydney, where we as mainstream Anglicans went to Sunday Mass at Sydney RC Cathedral, our children would murmur instruction to their Jewish mother. I particularly recall a morning when our four year-old daughter said to her mother, “Now it’s time for Communities, Mummy: shall we go up for a blessing? We can’t have Communities, but just hold your hands out upsidedown....” There was a row of nuns in front of us and they as one turned around and beamed.

When we found ourselves in Brisbane the response at Brisbane Anglican Cathedral was somewhat different. Our then-avowedly Christian children would patiently explain the proceedings to their Jewish mother. She actually did entirely know what was going on, but it was charming that they found it appropriate to try and include her — albeit that the egregious Peter Hollingworth was preaching a halfwitted sermon that embarrassed me down to my bootstraps and that Brisbane Cathedral doesn’t put on much in the way of music or liturgy, not even during the Christmas Midnight Eucharist, despite its then having a more-than-full house. Our younger son was, as had become the custom in our family, quietly explaining the proceedings to his Mum. When a dragon of a woman in the pew in front turned around and hissed, “Shoosh! Be quiet!”

Needless to say my three Canadian children were mortified (we Canadians cannot handle public demonstrations), leapt to their feet and rushed out into the street. We of course followed them, gathered them up with abject apologies, tried in vain to suggest that they mustn’t draw too many adverse inferences, and went home to lunch. I wish I had leaned forward and said to the horrible old Australian woman, “Now look what you have done!” But I didn’t.

Perhaps needless to say, none of our children have darkened the door of a church ever since: and I had been of all things at one point nervous about their hero-worship of the rector of our church in Vancouver, lest they “get religion”! Nowadays it’s more like, “So, Dad, you’re going to be dead sooner or later, so you’d better tell us what you want your funeral to be. But it’s not going to be with those horrible Anglicans!”

And I remind them of lovely Sir Ellison and that day in Brisbane Cathedral when the nasty old Australian Anglican women couldn’t say a word!

Mac Robb
Holy Trinity Fortitude Valley (occasionally)
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
mac.robb@gmail.com
24 November 2008

Lost in translation

The letter from the Reverend Mr Calder illustrates the "Sydney problem". He appears, quite literally, not to be talking the same language as Anglo-Catholics (at least) and probably most Anglicans.

Some of the linguistic differences are just traditional markers of churchmanship, such as the use of the term "Lord's Supper". OK, it appears in the BCP, but these days is certainly a marker of decidedly protestant churchmanship, just as in my church it is, as in the 1549 BCP "commonly called the Mass" indicating our Catholic churchmanship.

But other terminology used by Mr Calder goes beyond the traditional "high/low" markers. What on earth is a "senior minister"? A protodeacon in the Orthodox Church is a senior minister, but he cannot serve the Liturgy. A reader with forty years' service in a C of E parish is a senior minister, but s/he cannot celebrate the Eucharist. Why does Mr Calder fight shy of using the P-word? In normal Anglican practice, celebration of the Eucharist is confined to PRIESTS (and bishops). What baffles me is why Sydney so firmly resists the ordination of women to the priesthood, while apparently seeing no function which is restricted to a priest.

Alan Harrison
S. Stephen's, Wolverhampton
Walsall, West Midlands, UNITED KINGDOM
alantharrison@btinternet.com
24 November 2008

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